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		<title>Comment on Mmm-mmm, that is some tasty veal! by Thoreau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thoreau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 16:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh?

I posted this to make the point that I&#039;m in a transitional period on how I view my duties toward my students, and how to set the level of expectations.</description>
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<p>I posted this to make the point that I&#8217;m in a transitional period on how I view my duties toward my students, and how to set the level of expectations.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can a professor follow the Gospels and still maintain standards? by Eli Rabett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eli Rabett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 14:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is figuring out who is veal and who is just acting like veal because they never had the opportunity to learn.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Mmm-mmm, that is some tasty veal! by soullite</title>
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		<dc:creator>soullite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 13:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did someone come by and &#039;replace&#039;-censor another trollish &#039;Generation Veal&#039; post?

 Good on them.</description>
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<p> Good on them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mmm-mmm, that is some tasty veal! by Kolohe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kolohe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 22:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do they call the Whopper?

I don&#039;t know, I didn&#039;t go into cold fusion.</description>
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<p>I don&#8217;t know, I didn&#8217;t go into cold fusion.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mmm-mmm, that is some tasty veal! by ajay</title>
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		<dc:creator>ajay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 16:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They got the SI system there. In physics it&#039;s the 0.1135 Kilogrammer.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Can a professor follow the Gospels and still maintain standards? by Thoreau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thoreau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 15:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt that many of them make the cynical calculation that consciously.  But it is definitely true that the demographics of your population of science majors will affect (or, shall I say, in NSF terms, impact very broadly) your odds of getting funding.  And once you&#039;re funded for a project that involves, shall we say, the demographics of your discipline, people will remind you how virtuous you are.  It becomes very easy to tell yourself that keeping the weakest students in science is A Good Thing.

Note that I am NOT saying that the weakest students are all of a particular demographic, or that all students of such a demographics are always weak.  But there is a correlation, everybody is aware of it, and the second you start talking about weeding out weak students people make certain associations.  (For the record, though, my poster-children for over-rated students who should have been weeded out include a substantial number of white suburban kids and an Asian dude.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt that many of them make the cynical calculation that consciously.  But it is definitely true that the demographics of your population of science majors will affect (or, shall I say, in NSF terms, impact very broadly) your odds of getting funding.  And once you&#8217;re funded for a project that involves, shall we say, the demographics of your discipline, people will remind you how virtuous you are.  It becomes very easy to tell yourself that keeping the weakest students in science is A Good Thing.</p>
<p>Note that I am NOT saying that the weakest students are all of a particular demographic, or that all students of such a demographics are always weak.  But there is a correlation, everybody is aware of it, and the second you start talking about weeding out weak students people make certain associations.  (For the record, though, my poster-children for over-rated students who should have been weeded out include a substantial number of white suburban kids and an Asian dude.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can a professor follow the Gospels and still maintain standards? by matthew h</title>
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		<dc:creator>matthew h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 15:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to be too cynical but those who advocate helping such people may be less motivated to urge you to kindness to the needy by &quot;Christian charity&quot; than by the more self-dealing fact that the presence of the needy constitutes revenue to the institution and a boost to academic enrollment statistics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to be too cynical but those who advocate helping such people may be less motivated to urge you to kindness to the needy by &#8220;Christian charity&#8221; than by the more self-dealing fact that the presence of the needy constitutes revenue to the institution and a boost to academic enrollment statistics.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mmm-mmm, that is some tasty veal! by matthew h</title>
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		<dc:creator>matthew h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 15:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know why they don&#039;t call the Quarter Pounder the Quarter Pounder in physics?</description>
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		<title>Comment on Can a professor follow the Gospels and still maintain standards? by Lurker</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 06:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that a bit of Lutheran theology of vocation might help here. Essentially, you are, as a physics professor, called by God to fulfil the vocation of the physics professor. That means that you must be a good teacher, rightful towards your students and unflinching in your duties. And one of your duties is to fail your bad students. So, as a professor, you are called to exercise the powers of your station so that the good students excel and your bad students fail, regardless of your personal feelings. As a man, you are required to be compassionate and to love them, even when you are failing them and they are angry at you.

It is no different from being a judge or a soldier. As a judge, a Christian will be required to inflict suffering to the guilty, and as a soldier, kill the enemies of the state, which would be sins if done as a private person. Only if you take pleasure in these actions you are sinning. (And surely, some day you will. That&#039;s what the grace is for.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that a bit of Lutheran theology of vocation might help here. Essentially, you are, as a physics professor, called by God to fulfil the vocation of the physics professor. That means that you must be a good teacher, rightful towards your students and unflinching in your duties. And one of your duties is to fail your bad students. So, as a professor, you are called to exercise the powers of your station so that the good students excel and your bad students fail, regardless of your personal feelings. As a man, you are required to be compassionate and to love them, even when you are failing them and they are angry at you.</p>
<p>It is no different from being a judge or a soldier. As a judge, a Christian will be required to inflict suffering to the guilty, and as a soldier, kill the enemies of the state, which would be sins if done as a private person. Only if you take pleasure in these actions you are sinning. (And surely, some day you will. That&#8217;s what the grace is for.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can a professor follow the Gospels and still maintain standards? by Thoreau</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 05:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welp-

It&#039;s not just a problem in huge classes with mixed abilities, but it&#039;s certainly more of a factor for my time.  In a class of 100 students, some of them more clueless than shit, no matter how explicit I am there is inevitably one person who misunderstands something and finds some ambiguity, so I inevitably have to then bend over backwards and figure out what to do that is fair.  Also, while I will argue in favor of the pedagogical merits of online homework (in short, computerized homework gives students immediate feedback and also gives me an instant report on what they do and don&#039;t know, and by randomizing the questions you can fight back against cheating), it certainly adds some record-keeping and administrative duties.  Same for clicker questions--again, I will argue that they have some pedagogical merits (which is not to say that I&#039;ll go out and be an evangelical asshole like some people), but it&#039;s Yet Another Thing that I have to have a policy on, and help students trouble-shoot, and maintain records on, etc.

If the fuckers would just study and were actually capable of solving hard problems, we could run classes in a mode of intellectual dialogue, where I give my take, then we go back and forth over the challenging problems that they&#039;ve been chewing on.  Alas, they need to be led around, and the format means that I have to spend a lot of time on logistics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welp-</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just a problem in huge classes with mixed abilities, but it&#8217;s certainly more of a factor for my time.  In a class of 100 students, some of them more clueless than shit, no matter how explicit I am there is inevitably one person who misunderstands something and finds some ambiguity, so I inevitably have to then bend over backwards and figure out what to do that is fair.  Also, while I will argue in favor of the pedagogical merits of online homework (in short, computerized homework gives students immediate feedback and also gives me an instant report on what they do and don&#8217;t know, and by randomizing the questions you can fight back against cheating), it certainly adds some record-keeping and administrative duties.  Same for clicker questions&#8211;again, I will argue that they have some pedagogical merits (which is not to say that I&#8217;ll go out and be an evangelical asshole like some people), but it&#8217;s Yet Another Thing that I have to have a policy on, and help students trouble-shoot, and maintain records on, etc.</p>
<p>If the fuckers would just study and were actually capable of solving hard problems, we could run classes in a mode of intellectual dialogue, where I give my take, then we go back and forth over the challenging problems that they&#8217;ve been chewing on.  Alas, they need to be led around, and the format means that I have to spend a lot of time on logistics.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mmm-mmm, that is some tasty veal! by Dennis</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 03:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, but what&#039;s in your suitcase?</description>
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		<title>Comment on Can a professor follow the Gospels and still maintain standards? by Welp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Welp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 13:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The post is reasonable.

I&#039;ll add that having huge classes with mixed abilities basically means that you have to shovel out busy work, homework, extra credit, multiple versions of the same exam, attendance checks, recitation work, recitation attendance checks, blah blah blah.  All this means that the class becomes more of a scheduling and time challenge than an academic one.  In order to get that A (or 4 or 5 or whatever the scale is) the proportion of work that is honest &quot;look I&#039;m learning&quot; stuff over &quot;ass in chair&quot; stuff drops precipitously.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;ll add that having huge classes with mixed abilities basically means that you have to shovel out busy work, homework, extra credit, multiple versions of the same exam, attendance checks, recitation work, recitation attendance checks, blah blah blah.  All this means that the class becomes more of a scheduling and time challenge than an academic one.  In order to get that A (or 4 or 5 or whatever the scale is) the proportion of work that is honest &#8220;look I&#8217;m learning&#8221; stuff over &#8220;ass in chair&#8221; stuff drops precipitously.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mmm-mmm, that is some tasty veal! by monster gardener</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 02:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pulp Fiction...

Shortly before the Divine Intervention Scene.......</description>
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<p>Shortly before the Divine Intervention Scene&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mmm-mmm, that is some tasty veal! by tarylcabot</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 04:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should walk the earth like Caine.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Can a professor follow the Gospels and still maintain standards? by KWK</title>
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		<dc:creator>KWK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 03:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;When I feed the poor, they call me a saint, but when I ask why the poor are hungry, they call me a communist.&quot;  ---Dom Helder Camara

If you get that warm, fuzzy, Christian feeling from ministering to people in many circumstances, then I would venture to say that your Christ-like-ness is not really so much in question.  Instead, the issue seems to be that actually ministering in an effective manner in your circumstances requires not so much addressing the immediate need as addressing instead the systemic issues that give rise to the need.

A warm, fuzzy emotional state is nice, but is not really a reliable indicator of faithful ministry.  Sacrifice of time and effort and emotional investment is, well, a sacrifice.  But if you never benefit yourself in the midst of your giving, then perhaps your vocation is elsewhere?  Perhaps you have been given too much of a deeper vision to be content with (naive?) hit-and-run remedial education in the midst of what should be a more advanced setting.  At least in this circumstance, that could mean confronting the larger issues on a strategic (dare I say, bureaucratic?) level rather than dealing with individual struggles on a tactical level.  After all, the poor[-ly performing students] you will always have with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When I feed the poor, they call me a saint, but when I ask why the poor are hungry, they call me a communist.&#8221;  &#8212;Dom Helder Camara</p>
<p>If you get that warm, fuzzy, Christian feeling from ministering to people in many circumstances, then I would venture to say that your Christ-like-ness is not really so much in question.  Instead, the issue seems to be that actually ministering in an effective manner in your circumstances requires not so much addressing the immediate need as addressing instead the systemic issues that give rise to the need.</p>
<p>A warm, fuzzy emotional state is nice, but is not really a reliable indicator of faithful ministry.  Sacrifice of time and effort and emotional investment is, well, a sacrifice.  But if you never benefit yourself in the midst of your giving, then perhaps your vocation is elsewhere?  Perhaps you have been given too much of a deeper vision to be content with (naive?) hit-and-run remedial education in the midst of what should be a more advanced setting.  At least in this circumstance, that could mean confronting the larger issues on a strategic (dare I say, bureaucratic?) level rather than dealing with individual struggles on a tactical level.  After all, the poor[-ly performing students] you will always have with you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can a professor follow the Gospels and still maintain standards? by Thoreau</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 02:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KWK-

I agree with all of what you say.  Thing is, I just feel exasperated dealing with these lost sheep.  Despite what I might say when I vent, I don&#039;t actually despise them.  However, I don&#039;t feel any satisfaction from working with these lowly students when they&#039;re in the wrong class.  I occasionally teach some courses in which there is an appropriate time to help these poorly-prepared kids where they are at, and I feel satisfaction, but the vast majority of the contexts in which I encounter them are not appropriate ones, so I get no warm fuzzy feeling from interacting with them, no sense of satisfaction for ministering to the lowly.

OTOH, I know some people who actually do feel some sort of warmth from encountering the lowly.  They really do feel like they&#039;re doing something important.  I sometimes wonder if they are better Christians than I am, in some sense (even though some would not describe themselves as Christians).

The thing that keeps me from trying to emulate their feeling, from experiencing it the way they do, is that I see so much wrongness in this situation.  It is a virtue to help the desperate, but I don&#039;t see anything helpful coming in this context.</description>
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<p>I agree with all of what you say.  Thing is, I just feel exasperated dealing with these lost sheep.  Despite what I might say when I vent, I don&#8217;t actually despise them.  However, I don&#8217;t feel any satisfaction from working with these lowly students when they&#8217;re in the wrong class.  I occasionally teach some courses in which there is an appropriate time to help these poorly-prepared kids where they are at, and I feel satisfaction, but the vast majority of the contexts in which I encounter them are not appropriate ones, so I get no warm fuzzy feeling from interacting with them, no sense of satisfaction for ministering to the lowly.</p>
<p>OTOH, I know some people who actually do feel some sort of warmth from encountering the lowly.  They really do feel like they&#8217;re doing something important.  I sometimes wonder if they are better Christians than I am, in some sense (even though some would not describe themselves as Christians).</p>
<p>The thing that keeps me from trying to emulate their feeling, from experiencing it the way they do, is that I see so much wrongness in this situation.  It is a virtue to help the desperate, but I don&#8217;t see anything helpful coming in this context.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can a professor follow the Gospels and still maintain standards? by KWK</title>
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		<dc:creator>KWK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 02:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not (always) your students&#039; fault that they are unprepared for your class, but their personal culpability (or lack thereof) doesn&#039;t change the reality of the situation.  One of my college teachers that I respect the most holds that distinction because he refused to tweak my grade when I asked him to.  He offered to write a letter to the administration on my behalf so that I could take the next class in a series (for which my grade in his class technically did not qualify me), but the grade itself remained as it was.

Part of the reason that you&#039;ve been plagued with college students who can&#039;t do reasonably simple math or write coherent sentences is that no one before you had the integrity---or the compassion---to provide an honest assessment of their abilities.  If no one breaks this cycle when they are still in a position to recover from such a setback, then these students will have even greater problems later---for example, once they venture out into the real world and end up being summarily fired for displaying such incompetence.

With respect to being a good Christian instructor, I have to say that Christ Himself was not really in the business of affirming people&#039;s self-esteem.  &quot;You brood of vipers!  You blind guides!&quot; probably hurt some people&#039;s feelings.  And even &quot;Go and sin no more&quot; implies a negative judgement on the previous actions of the woman so addressed.  Grammatically incorrect sentences are not (usually) evidence of moral failure, but the point remains valid.  I would argue that it was precisely &lt;em&gt;because&lt;/em&gt; Jesus valued these other people for who they were (rather than tying their worth to some perceived need to have their accomplishments recognized) that he refused to coddle them with what would ultimately have been destructive bullshit.

So that is all a long-winded way of saying that you should definitely be pissed off that students who can&#039;t handle the material are being foisted off on you, and you should advocate mightily for them to be elsewhere--namely, in the sufficient quantity of remedial courses (taught by you, or by someone else) that permit the non-remedial students to proceed at the usual academic pace without having their education compromised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not (always) your students&#8217; fault that they are unprepared for your class, but their personal culpability (or lack thereof) doesn&#8217;t change the reality of the situation.  One of my college teachers that I respect the most holds that distinction because he refused to tweak my grade when I asked him to.  He offered to write a letter to the administration on my behalf so that I could take the next class in a series (for which my grade in his class technically did not qualify me), but the grade itself remained as it was.</p>
<p>Part of the reason that you&#8217;ve been plagued with college students who can&#8217;t do reasonably simple math or write coherent sentences is that no one before you had the integrity&#8212;or the compassion&#8212;to provide an honest assessment of their abilities.  If no one breaks this cycle when they are still in a position to recover from such a setback, then these students will have even greater problems later&#8212;for example, once they venture out into the real world and end up being summarily fired for displaying such incompetence.</p>
<p>With respect to being a good Christian instructor, I have to say that Christ Himself was not really in the business of affirming people&#8217;s self-esteem.  &#8220;You brood of vipers!  You blind guides!&#8221; probably hurt some people&#8217;s feelings.  And even &#8220;Go and sin no more&#8221; implies a negative judgement on the previous actions of the woman so addressed.  Grammatically incorrect sentences are not (usually) evidence of moral failure, but the point remains valid.  I would argue that it was precisely <em>because</em> Jesus valued these other people for who they were (rather than tying their worth to some perceived need to have their accomplishments recognized) that he refused to coddle them with what would ultimately have been destructive bullshit.</p>
<p>So that is all a long-winded way of saying that you should definitely be pissed off that students who can&#8217;t handle the material are being foisted off on you, and you should advocate mightily for them to be elsewhere&#8211;namely, in the sufficient quantity of remedial courses (taught by you, or by someone else) that permit the non-remedial students to proceed at the usual academic pace without having their education compromised.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The poor and their time are soon parted by Art</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 01:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having been poor I can say that poor people have fewer resources, of all types, to work with. 

A good example is what happens when the car breaks down. Poor people are more likely depending on the car to get to work and have few alternatives. Public transport sucks in most cities. If the car breaks down expectantly there is a good chance you miss work, and a day&#039;s wage. Needing to save money and time you can&#039;t shop around for the lest expensive garage and your horizons are foreshortened because you have to find one that will tow inexpensively or use one close by. Depending on reliable public transport means you are likely to get to work late. You miss one day and a re late the next so you are now in danger of losing your job. 

Given that they know you are poor the garage is either going to want payment up front and/or demand payment in full before they release your vehicle. You might be able to negotiate a deal but this means you have to talk to the business owner during regular business hours, hours you are supposed to be at work.

While you work this through you have to struggle to get both you and your wife to work, the kid to daycare, and get to the grocery store for food. A bus ride runs a couple of dollars, a taxi at least ten each way.

Being wealthy enough to have  second car means the whole thing is easier. It means you have time to find a mechanic that is both good and inexpensive. It means you don&#039;t miss a day&#039;s work. You stay on relatively good terms with your boss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been poor I can say that poor people have fewer resources, of all types, to work with. </p>
<p>A good example is what happens when the car breaks down. Poor people are more likely depending on the car to get to work and have few alternatives. Public transport sucks in most cities. If the car breaks down expectantly there is a good chance you miss work, and a day&#8217;s wage. Needing to save money and time you can&#8217;t shop around for the lest expensive garage and your horizons are foreshortened because you have to find one that will tow inexpensively or use one close by. Depending on reliable public transport means you are likely to get to work late. You miss one day and a re late the next so you are now in danger of losing your job. </p>
<p>Given that they know you are poor the garage is either going to want payment up front and/or demand payment in full before they release your vehicle. You might be able to negotiate a deal but this means you have to talk to the business owner during regular business hours, hours you are supposed to be at work.</p>
<p>While you work this through you have to struggle to get both you and your wife to work, the kid to daycare, and get to the grocery store for food. A bus ride runs a couple of dollars, a taxi at least ten each way.</p>
<p>Being wealthy enough to have  second car means the whole thing is easier. It means you have time to find a mechanic that is both good and inexpensive. It means you don&#8217;t miss a day&#8217;s work. You stay on relatively good terms with your boss.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can a professor follow the Gospels and still maintain standards? by Farah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Farah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 10:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a real difference between being a good shepherd and being a bleeding heart. I am a left wing radical who believes in education for all, and who puts a hell of a lot of effort into remedial help, but They Should Not Be In Need of Remedial Help!

And I agree with your entire analysis (tho it&#039;s easier to teach cross-ability creative writing than it is engineering).

There is a reason that charity can be called Do Gooding. If it leaves people just as stranded, and in more debt, it isn&#039;t Good Shepherding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a real difference between being a good shepherd and being a bleeding heart. I am a left wing radical who believes in education for all, and who puts a hell of a lot of effort into remedial help, but They Should Not Be In Need of Remedial Help!</p>
<p>And I agree with your entire analysis (tho it&#8217;s easier to teach cross-ability creative writing than it is engineering).</p>
<p>There is a reason that charity can be called Do Gooding. If it leaves people just as stranded, and in more debt, it isn&#8217;t Good Shepherding.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can a professor follow the Gospels and still maintain standards? by Jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 08:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if this makes any sense at all for you, being a very different situation.

My sophomore HS Algebra 2/calc class was ad hoc split in two, with 6 of us sitting in the hall doing &quot;advanced&quot; stuff and mostly team learning with useful input from our rockstar teach in between her working with folks to grok the concept of a Cartesian plane. This was in the south, late 80s. She rocked. I still know four of those people. One professor, one structural engineer, one music guy, one stay at home dad. I do software, although I&#039;m starting to think I need to make something touchable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if this makes any sense at all for you, being a very different situation.</p>
<p>My sophomore HS Algebra 2/calc class was ad hoc split in two, with 6 of us sitting in the hall doing &#8220;advanced&#8221; stuff and mostly team learning with useful input from our rockstar teach in between her working with folks to grok the concept of a Cartesian plane. This was in the south, late 80s. She rocked. I still know four of those people. One professor, one structural engineer, one music guy, one stay at home dad. I do software, although I&#8217;m starting to think I need to make something touchable.</p>
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